I believe in low carbon power, just that I also believe in security of supply, and with wind, or solar or tidal, you cant get it. I have no wind records for the Netherlands but P.F. I paid 1100 Euros/year for a 150 m2 house, at 1000 m altitude on the French alps, heating, hot water, everything included. I have caught people several times in their lectures saying they are burning biogas on a campus, and they always are sheepish when I call them out on it, because they know they are fibbing. The trains cant run as advertised on weak and intermittent wind power, and there is only one plug on the wall. https://ecommons.cornell.edu/bitstream/handle/1813/5329/Bothi_BEEThesis.pdf;sequence=1, When wind power is fed into a grid it becomes inextricably mixed with all the vibrating electrons from other generation sources to the point where there is no way of knowing where any power taken from the grid came from.. As of October2022[update], wind power in the Netherlands has an installed capacity of 8,304 MW, 29.6% of which is based offshore. It feels to many like progress. Under this system the government chooses locations and organizes tenders for projects of 350 MW, and project developers can offer bids for each farm. The point about this is that it is just PR. NS uses as much electricity as all Amsterdam residents combined, and its trains represent over 90 percent of commercial train travel in the country. Every electric train on the Dutch railways NS network now gets 100 per cent of its energy from wind energy. The rest is supplied by wind and solar power, which contribute about a fifth of the citys power. [15], In February 2022 the Netherlands announced it increased its offshore wind target to 21 GW by 2030. "So we in fact reached our goal a year earlier than planned," spokesman Ton Boon told AFP. [13] The wind farm demonstrates the growth in scale in wind power as between 1987 and 1991 it was the largest of its kind in Europe with 50 turbines and a total nameplate capacity of 15 MW. 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Wind turbines feed electricity into the grid and the electric company credits them for the electricity. One such example is the largest wind farm in Holland, Noordoostpolder, which is installing industrial scale wind turbines such as the new Enercon onshore wind turbines, at the time the largest onshore turbines in the world rated at 7500kW nameplate capacity. [61], In 2008, a second, somewhat larger offshore wind farm was built: the Princess Amalia Wind Farm, consisting of 60 Vestas V80 2MW turbines totaling 120 MW, sufficient to power 125,000 homes and help the Netherlands cut 225,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions. What happens where there is insufficient wind for the required duration to powerup the batteries? I Did Not Say Wind Energy is 'Idiot Power.'" However, early successes in rolling out the clean energy program . The Dutch government is looking to ramp up the nations share of renewable energy from 4 percent in 2014 to 16 percent in 2023. Rail networks source this electricity from the grid, and just like for our homes, its transmitted to them via high-voltage lines. You still technically get your power from the electric company, but you pay little to nothing for it because you are supplying them electricity. I guess I could have found something cheaper still if Id looked hard enough. As of the 1st of January, 2017, electric Dutch trains are now completely powered by wind energy, according to NS, the national railway company. There are ~40 utilities with sharp price competition in NL. A NS train. That is why half of the demand will be sourced from a number of new wind farms in Belgium and Scandinavia, which have been specifically assigned for this contract., http://www.railway-technology.com/features/featuremichel-kerkhof-of-eneco-discusses-the-dutch-rail-networks-renewable-revolution-4647194/. However, it seems officials have been able to beat that goal by an entire year. The other half comes from newly built wind farms in . Apart from the first rather obvious problems, anyone with the most basic understanding of electrical enrgy, as taught before 16 at school, would immediately know this was a wholly untrue technical assertion. I am surrounded by almost 3000 MWs of hydro power in my county alone, but because of these guarantees of origin my supposed consumption is very dirty, consisting mostly of a central European mix of coal, natural gas, nuclear with some renewables added. The turbines supply enough energy to power 2.4 million households. [21], In November 2011, the Dutch government decided to no longer fund 6 billion per year to maintain subsidized wind kWh at 0.18. The US city of Philadelphia has taken regenerative braking to a new level though. This year the country is due to start operating a 600-megawatt offshore wind farm, called Gemini. The Dutch railway folks have PPAs to buy energy only from renewable energy producers, and thus claim, our passenger trains run on renewable energy, but fail to add on a contract basis. The construction of these wind farms along with others in the Netherlands, Belgium, and Finland helped NS and Eneco to hit their target so far ahead of schedule. The historical land of windmills is leading the charge in wind energy development. Roger, that map isn`t quite updated. Its worth remembering that data on wind and solar is available here: http://mylly.hopto.me/windineurope/wind_solar_20_countries_raw.zip. How it then gets used depends on the city were in. Transmission costs of 1.4 eurocent/kWh is to be added as TenneT is required to take power from sea to shore. EDF was 13.44p but I keep reading comments about how RE fans should take electricity only from PV and wind turbines, so I decided I should do the same. They say that this makes them the first rail company in the world that runs it fleet entirely on renewable energy. The 600,000 daily. NS is the main public train in the Netherlands. Apart from the first rather obvious problems, anyone with the most basic understanding of electrical enrgy, as taught before 16 at school, would immediately know this was a wholly untrue technical assertion., Thats the whole point, Brian There are hardly any people with a basic understanding of electrical energy If most would have an understanding, there would be no renewables at all The whole charade would not even have started in the first place , Just as Otter says above, on different forums, lots of people are claiming Im 100% renewable (because I have a 100% RE contract with Essent, or Lampiris, or Belpower, or ENI, or ), Neither humour (so you got all the wind power this morning, because there was none left for me !, nor hard facts (for the 8-day period 27/12 03/01, that I just took a look at for another discussion, Wind and Solar provided a grand total of 4.6% of all electricity used in Belgium Was that enough for all of them 100% RE contracts ? Started operations in 1979. https://askjaenergy.com/2015/03/23/does-apple-not-want-truly-green-data-centers/. Obvious to the meanest intelligence. Even the two Dutch wind farms with which NS contracts directly for wind power, Noordoostpolder and Luchterduinen, are tied generally to the Dutch grid and not tied directly into the NS rail system. All Dutch electric trains are now powered by wind energy, the national railway company NS has said . [5] The first of these, the 429 MW Noordoostpolder wind farm was already partially deployed by year end 2015 whilst the 600 MW Gemini offshore wind farm was commissioned in 2017. In this video, NS CEO Roger van Boxtel is humorously strapped to a windmill blade as he touts his companys latest renewable energy achievement. I am told Biogas is not actually allowed in our pipeline system. [5] This will contribute towards the Dutch target of 14% renewable energy use out of total energy use by 2020[10] and 16% by 2023. Overall, the Netherlands has over 2,000 wind turbines spread across the country. And meanwhile the Netherlands electrified railways continue to be powered dominantly by fossil fuel electricity. Furthermore, both solar panels and wind turbines are capable of functioning under cold . On insulated wires, the speed, on average, is about 2/3 the speed of light. No direct subsidies from the government are related to this contract.. It seems that NS may be outsourcing costs as well as power. "Exploiting wind power in Holland." It goes back to the start of 2016, and includes the Netherlands as well as Belgium and the Nordic countries (and Germany) that NS claim to be supplied by. Some of the newer larger wind farms currently under construction are replacing smaller turbines previously installed at given locations. 1995 - 2023 by Snopes Media Group Inc. . Switch them back on by degrees. According to Railway Technology because it has a: green energy contract thought to be among the largest yet signed in Europe between power supplier Eneco and VIVENS, an energy procurement joint venture comprising Netherlands Railways (NS), Veolia, Arriva, Connexxion and rail freight firms, and because, NS and Eneco have carefully selected a list of wind farms that fulfil their criteria of being traceable, sustainable or renewable and additional, or new, and because, This partnership ensures that new investments can be made in even newer wind farms, which will increase the share of renewable energy. Same thing if you got solar panels on your house. from northern Maine to southern Florida, about 1800 miles in 0.01 second. Apparently Eneco can make the wind blow to order.). According to Eneco, the power used by the carriers comes from newly built wind farms in the Netherlands, Scandinavia and Belgium. "Since 1 January, 100% of our trains are running on wind energy," said NS spokesman,. Its of course a waste to install a separate grid with only 100% renewable electricity. When challenged on its claim, NS clarified that only the electrified portion of its system runs completely on wind power. one of their national railway companies, Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS), 700 MW offshore windfarm near the town of Borssele. "Carbon Shift: How Peak Oil and the Climate Crisis Will Change Canada (and Our Lives) Paperback." The pickup shoes do occasionally lose contact anyway, albeit very briefly, at track junctions. Electric trains also use regenerative braking, similar to whats found in hybrid and electric cars. Intercity train arriving at Leiden Central railway station, Netherlands. If thats the case, it marks a major turning point in the story of renewables. Many of these smaller companies were eventually acquired by the larger wind turbine manufactures such as Vestas, Siemens and Lagerwey. As well as the technological problems discussed in this blog can we afford this destruction of our landscapes pursuing this RE dream. This is a BETA experience. Since 2017 , 100% of Dutch electric trains have been powered by wind energy. Especially since there are no green electrons. As of January 1, all trains in the Netherlands now run entirely on wind power (that is to say electricity generated by wind farms, not masts and sails). Roger, World-famous for their picturesque windmills, the Netherlands has always had a love affair with wind energy. Founded in 2004, Produced at least 12 models at 250, 500, 750, 900 and 2000kW. The Netherlands, aka Windmill Country, is now operating 100 percent of its electric trains with wind energy. [37] Other large wind farms are located in Delfzijl-zuid (43 MW),[30] Lelystad (46 MW), Terneuzen, (Koegorspolder, 44 MW), and Biddinghuizen (WP Kubbeweg, 34 MW). Built 1992 this nearshore wind farm had just 4 Nedwind 500 KW turbines based 1km to shore. power for over 400,000 households every day, a figure roughly equivalent to the number of households in the Northern Netherlands.[13]. You may have a battery bank to store some of it in case of an outage, but mostly it will go to the electric company and they credit you. [20] A few of the larger wind farms are listed here. Passing through the gates without traveling, Forgetting to check in or out and requesting refunds, Sustainable accessibility of the Netherlands, More information about NS buses that run on HVO. Updated [5 February 2019]: Original version of this article attributed this quote to Thomas Homer-Dixon. Most wind power is produced in the province of Flevoland. Impressively, this means their initial goal was met one whole year ahead of schedule. How much wind? They would stop when there isnt any, obs. [62], Installed land-based wind capacity (MW) by. Instead of trains recovering energy for their own use, any excess power is directed to a centralized bank of lithium-ion batteries. So, as you can see, your silly view of the frrrench domestic heating habits are wrong, probably based on indoctrination from greenpiss or the like. These newer and larger wind farms are making use of some of the largest wind turbines available, in particular in the case of Noordoostpolder the Enercon E-126 7500kW wind turbine, the largest onshore turbine available at that time. Works for me, and they were cheaper than EON too. In fact, he allowed that a windmill situated at a good location could pay back the energy costs of creating it in under three years, but that aspect was omitted from the memed version of his quote: The concept of net energy must be applied to renewable sources of energy, such as windmills and photovoltaics. Earlier this week, one of their national railway companies, Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS), announced that, since 1st January, every single one of its electric trains have been running on energy harvested from wind. The new Zuidwester site at the wind farm will have just 12 turbines and a total nameplate capacity of 90 MW. Bolthouse Farms Sued After Smoothie With 100% Fruit Juice Tests Positive for PFAS, EPA Announces $27 Billion Fund to Help Low-Income and Disadvantaged Communities Transition to Renewable Energy, Derailed Train Cars in Ohio Were Not Labeled Hazardous, Wind Turbine Giant Proposes New York Factory That Would Create 420 Jobs and $500M in Local Investments. Physically it makes no difference as you say, but as HeavyWeather pointed out above my money is now going to fund reactors not Energiewende, so Im happy. That would meet approximately 75% of the countries electricity needs. It`s a scam. Julian Turner gets the inside track on the unique collaboration from Michel Kerkhof, account manager at Eneco. The 129 MW Eneco Luchterduinen wind farm is located 23km off the coast between Zandvoort and Noordwijk cities in the Netherlands. NO. The actual amount of green energy produced is unaffected.. Started operation in 2001 and is developing a 6,000kW two blade downwind turbine. If you want to be generous to NS, you can say that the BritNed interconnector is definitely being fed by the coal fired Maasvlakte power stations when it is delivering 1GW to the UK, because theyre right next door to the HVDC converters. Started operations 2009. I did not say wind energy is Idiot Power.". In 2017, our trains in the Netherlands became the first in the world to run for 100% on wind energy, giving travellers the option of travelling without CO2 emissions. OK, these days its less than the bandwidth to your mobile, but mumble years ago it was the real deal. Often only 100% renewable utilities are allowed to participate in the auctions. In total, NS consumes around 1.2 TWh of electricity to power its trains. There are very little poor people in Germany. Active 2016. Willem, you dont feel deprived by having 60Hz in the US. In fact, an investigation by Energy Matters finds that the electrified portion of NS mainly runs on electricity derived from coal and natural gas. The ns also solved the issue of delayed trains by changing the defenition of delay from 3 minutes to 5 minutes. The Dutch government has set a target of 6,000 MW nameplate capacity of onshore wind power by 2020 (not met, as per the data above) and 4,450 MW of offshore wind power by 2023. Reply to Rod above went to the wrong place and left off the smiley after Albania. Plus, it turns out that about half the electricity NS uses to power its rail system comes from outside of the Netherlands. People making this claim are simply propagandists. - YouTube 0:00 / 6:04 Do Dutch trains run on Wind? This has already led to a savings of 1.43 billions kilograms of C02 emissions. All Dutch electric trains are now powered by wind energy, the national railway company NS has said . This material may not be reproduced without permission. The wind farm's 86 wind turbines will produce 1.4 billion kWh of electricity, enough. The headline: Netherlands Trains Now Running on 100% Wind Power. Sign up for our email newsletter! There is a way of saying this, which characterises this behaviour, but I cant write it here because it is not politically correct too bad. The Harried Dutch commuters who are travelling on one of the most environmentally friendly rail networks in the whole of Europe, if not the world are being sold a bill of goods. It is a pity that they are allowing so many onshore/offshore wind turbines to blight our green and pleasant land and sea. . 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