An elegy to your mother in The Bodys Question ends with the lines, We sat in that room until the wood was spent. But I also felt that, okay, this is a kind of service that I would be doing for the country. She went on to receive her MFA from Columbia University. Curtis Fox: Its one of the curiosities of your book, that to grapple with this dawning century you go back into history with poems in the voices of the enslaved and powerless, and you also make interesting use of the Declaration of Independence. Or, generally, have some personae in your work been more challenging to access than others?SMITH: Sometimes, as in the case ofThe United States Welcomes You,a persona is a last resort. WebPoems, readings, poetry news and the entire 100-year archive of POETRY magazine. Curtis Fox: Being Poet Laureate is obviously an honor, but have you enjoyed it? For Poetry Off The Shelf, Im Curtis Fox. Register now and publish your best poems or read and bookmark your favorite popular famous poems. Its refreshing to hear from a Poet Laureate who holds all of these diverse concerns in her mind and in her voice, from our national tragedy to a four-year-olds refusal to eat her dinner. Do found texts youve worked with sometimes inform your subsequent writing? In a 2016 interview for The Iowa Review, you commented, I never have figured out how to talk about race in my poetry in a way that feels authentic and organic, and Ordinary Light is a book in which Im thinking so much about race. Wade in the Water seems to engage this topic compellingly and with great assurance. I'd lug She was named Poet Laureate of the United States in June 2017 and reappointed to the post for a second term last spring. The United States Welcomes You opens with the line, Why and by whose power were you sent? and closes with the line, How and to whom do we address our appeal? It was landing on that parallel syntax that told me the poem was over. Once I have a body of realized poems that feels substantialsay, 30 or 40 pagesI start to hunt for the different things the poems seem to be saying to one another in an effort to decipher what is missing. And if you enjoy that, I highly recommend checking out Duende is a book that grapples with what it means to me to be an American. Every small want, every niggling urge. Yet everyone lived with a sense of innocence and privacy. People are leading lives where they cannot afford rich and luxurious things and are ashamed of that, yet they also hold onto fear; they are afraid to let people see their actual status. And I guess in some ways thats a scary place to be. Tracy K. Smith: Well, I guess I was really thinking about the moment when our desire to be public people became such a ravenous appetite. All Rights Reserved. Did that effect the way that you thought about what you were going to do as Poet Laureate? Its also the title of a poem in the books first section, and it reverberates in images of water throughout the collectionin the poems Watershed and The Everlasting Self, for example. WebTracy K. Smith was born in Falmouth, Massachusetts, in 1972, and raised in Fairfield, California. Im talking about the many products, services, networks, trends, apps, tools, toys, as well as the drugs and devices for remedying their effects that are pitched to us nonstop: in our browser sidebars, in the pages of print media, embedded in movies and TV shows, on airplanes, in taxis and trains and even toilet stalls. Heavy lifting, to be sure. If we are moving through Time, I suspect Time is moving, too, though who knows where it is heading? How did the book come together and find its shape? Tracy K. Smith: I hear those two things, but in the reverse order. 4 (September 2018), Emily Jungmin Yoon, Maya Marshall, RHINO Reviews Vol. Or next to nothing and drops it in the chute. Capitalism has made a nightmare world, and we can either resist its pressures or chill with our smartphones and wait for climate change to kill us.Along comes Tracy K. Smiths new book, Wade in the Water (Graywolf). The first trip was to Sante Fe, New Mexico, to the Santa Fe Indian School and some neighboring pueblos, and I realized this is joy. The Garden of Eden is a semiautobiographical account based on Hemingways honeymoon with his second wife, Pauline Pfeiffer, in May, 1927, at Le Grau WebSummary Semi-Splendid by Tracy K. Smith explores an argument from two perspectives.Both perspectives come from Smith, yet one is from a nice perspective, in which the poet typically just allows her boyfriend to win the argument, and the other perspective focuses on this moment, in which she stands up for herself and begins to Its current occupant is Tracy K. Smith, who was named Poet Laureate in 2017. One of the women greeted me.I love you, she said. And youre leaving it to us, the reader, to fill in the blank. In this manner, they accumulate tools that can be put to use upon their own material. This was the shattered promise of Reconstruction, which collapsed under the weight of reactionary white politics (and outright terrorism) by the late 1870s. Dang, you hear those birds? I wanted to draw-in the sense of the living spirit at the heart of that nights encounter, and at the heart of the tradition of the ring shout itself: the sense of love and deliverance, of faith and compassion, of justice and survival.Watershed was a poem I knew I wanted to write. At the end of the day, our lives arent quite the way we wish they were and it can be difficult to come to terms with that. But translating is a different thing altogether. Attention to the stranger crossing any road in any town or city; patience with the awkward encounter, the unknown intention; respect for the other whom you do not know, but with a slightest stretch of mind, imagine you do. I think it is the shift in vocabulary that reads loudest in the books, and that is really a private attempt at finding something newly engaging in my usual conundrums.WASHINGTON SQUARE: You direct the undergraduate Creative Writing Program at Princeton University; though youre currently taking time off to focus on Laureate duties, youve taught and advised student poets for years. Capital exerts its violence against nature and the people who are part of it. In early drafts of that poem, I was struggling with the feeling that I had too much cherishing for the poems initial speaker, which I had imagined as a black man with his hands in the air, arms raised, eyes wide. So I inverted the poem, and wrote from the perspective of someone apprehending him. But I truly hope its more than that. Curtis Fox: That was An Old Story. It would mean giving space to voices that have long been silenced or distorted. She's also the author of a memoir, Ordinary Light, which was a finalist for the National Book Award for Nonfiction. For a long time I didnt know what to do with my interest in the Nathaniel Rich article that informs Watershed. Then, after most of the manuscript was finished, I had the idea of marrying the facts from that article, in a found poem, with the narratives of near-death-experience (NDE) survivorspeople whose vocabularies almost across the board invoke the sense of Love as an original animating force, as the logic of the universe. For me, the memory of catching a poem in that fashion seeps into the sense of peace the poem contemplates, causing it to feel fleeting, like something it would be easy, if youre not working very deliberately, to lose.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Your poems have a habit of calling chronology into question. Or was it just a sense of being spurred to write by the experience of working intensively with language?SMITH: Yi Lei has big questions. Tracy K. Smith, I hope your poem is a prophecy. And I love how Wright allows the text of her various speakers to become a kind of chorus. I just feel that sometimes they strive more to be abstract rather than deliver a coherent message. This gives even her most personal poems a decidedly political charge: they feel revolutionary in their openness of spirit, their attention to a range of voices. I'd squint into it, or close my eyes Title notwithstanding, the poem doesnt feel ostentatiously politicalcertainly not compared to some of its neighbors (e.g. Her second collection is titled Duende, a Spanish word that eludes precise translation but denotes a quality of soulful artistic passion and inspiration; perhaps its this same quality that infuses her patiently lucid writing with visceral urgency, yielding lines that stick persistently in a readers heart and mind.Smith has written four poetry collections: The Body's Question, which won the Cave Canem Poetry Prize; Duende, which received the James Laughlin Award; Life on Mars, winner of the 2012 Pulitzer Prize for Poetry; and, most recently, Wade in the Water, published in April by Graywolf Press. Usually only after therapy Even a simple poem like The Good Life grew large, for me at least,when the image of a woman journeying for water from a village without a well arrived. Tracy K. Smith: Mhmm, yeah. Its been something I will be sad to cease doing, and I feel incredibly lucky to have been able to go out across the country at this time in particular. She went on to receive her MFA from Columbia University. In a recent podcast of her conversation with Curtis Fox of the Poetry Foundation, Tracy K. Smith says that being Poet Laureate is a kind of service (Off the Shelf, July 31, 2018). Poetry allows us to bridge our differences, to remind ourselves that we do have things to say to each other, that we are interested in each others lives and vulnerabilities. In this new collection, Smith explores, mourns and even celebrates those vulnerabilities, both national and individual. Its been great. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration The opening poems of Wade in the Water seem to locate the divine in the worldly, sometimes to humorous effect: God drives around in a jeep, and the Garden of Eden turns out to be a grocery store. Life on Mars is pointed into the future as a way of reckoning with all of that, while Wade in the Water takes up history in a similar effort. She comes home with her paper bags and looks at the numbers to her name and it ultimately slam[s] [her] in the face; she perceives a life of luxury and craves more from life than that of which she can afford. And then I said well, why dont I just look at the Declaration of Independence and see what I can hear there? the same desolate luxury, people lived paycheck to paycheck, unable to afford such luxuries like exotic fruits or pastries. Its a dire poem, tinged with hope, that out of the destruction of our century something new and fresh might reemerge. But one day, when I was kind of working in the vein, I was sitting at my desk and I just had this vivid memory of shopping in a grocery store in Brooklyn, and this pang of nostalgia for that moment in my life, and this poem kind of just came out. I had been powerfully compelled and disturbed by a Nathaniel Rich article about chemical pollution that appeared in the New York Times Magazine in January 2016. But it is as if he hears, A voice in our idling engines, calling himLithe, Swift, Prince of Creation. Youve talked a bit about Wade in the Waters genesis, but more broadly, how early on do you typically begin to sense a manuscripts overarching themes? Each ashamed of the same things: WebTracy K. Smith was born in Falmouth, Massachusetts, on April 16, 1972, and raised in Fairfield, California. The glossy pastries! Educated at Harvard and Columbia, teaching at Princeton, named the US Poet Laureate in 2017, and already freighted with laurels (her previous book, Life on Mars, won the 2012 Pulitzer), Smith is no undiscovered talent. taken Captive Can you tell us how you composed the poem Declaration? We are not the isolated commodity seekers that capitalism and its armed enforcers demand we become, but rather all of us must be / / Buried deep within each other (Eternity). To say that shes very goodthat her poetry is not screwing aroundis to state what has become increasingly obvious over the past decade. The analysis was to consist of identifying poetic devices and explaining how and why Tracy K. Smith used them. Each one of us is a collaborative condition, The Everlasting Self puts it.Smith isnt a political theorist, psychologist, historian, or polemicist, though her poetry metabolizes elements of those discourses. My natural process is to try and distribute the weight of the poem across these mechanisms, but I get very excited when the poem has other plans for itself and leans more toward a rhythmic energy, or toward the rigid structure of rhyme or repetition. I think the title, which came after Id finished the poem, enlarged the initial scope of the poem. I think its because i'm not very artistic that it doesn't come so easy. I was blown away by how it seemed to capture the mood of our historical moment. I spent about 2 hours going through this list of poets trying to find someone that I could just. WASHINGTON SQUARE: In addition to the found poems in Wade in the Water and your previous books, youve also written erasures (including an erasure of the Declaration of Independence) and translated poetry from the Chinese. Buy RHINO MagazineDonate to RHINOPoemsReviewsEvents Submissions InternshipsAbout RHINOMasthead. I love chicken. So the poems change for me too, which is I think affirmation that something real is happening. [1] The term queasy questions comes from John Self, the narrator of Martin Amiss novel Money (1984). I dreamt that I was in a hotel where there was a mural of that poem, which was by him, painted on a wall, and I was reading it aloud to somebody who was with me. Leaving therapy, she feels a profound longing for the grocery store, which becomes a sort of temple where spiritual and aesthetic desire mix (The glossy pastries! WASHINGTON SQUARE: Across all four of your collections, many poems speak through personae. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration. Tracy K. Smith discusses her new book and her tenure as current US poet laureate. WebTracy K. Smith begins her poem The Good Life with a subordinate clause: Whenpeople talk (Line 1). Unlike a lot of other poets I was looking at, she has a certain flavor that just really fit to my taste. The Universe: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack. Maybe I am asking my new poems to remind me that I am one of those people, that America is one of those people. Are there particular questions you think of as driving Wade in the Water?SMITH: For me, poems, no matter how they behave, are questions. While I labored to find It was Brooklyn. I'd squint into it, or close my eyes And let it slam me in the face The known sun setting On the dawning century. It felt very much like a plea that could live in the 21st century, around all the instances of violence against unarmed black citizens. Over her career, she has published a memoir and four books of poetry, including And before that, of course, there was the slave empire, a giant system for turning flesh into money. I felt like my sonnet was off, I always felt like there was something I needed to fix in the last couple of lines of that poem. She joins me now from Princeton University, where she teaches creative writing. Meanwhile, Watershed brilliantly intermixes language from that Nathaniel Rich article with testimony by survivors of near-death experiences; was the process of choosing and assembling your found texts similar for this poem? We get collage, erasure, short lyrics, long sectioned pieces; speakers grapple with the Civil War, immigration, faith, environmental damage, motherhood, grocery shopping. Her last collection was Tracing the Lines(Brick Road Poetry Press, 2013). The dead speak.The poem bores deep into the nations roots, back to the Civil War, which momentarily created opportunities for African Americans to participate in democracy as voters and officeholders, craftsmen and farmers, teachers and doctors; as free agents in America, not chattel. I see humor as one of the things that keeps us alive. This is Tracy K. Smiths America, a lyric insurrection within Donald J. Trumps.Wade in the Water begins with the desolate luxury of the ironically titled Garden of Eden. It is set in the dawning century of the neoliberal universe, where everything is a market; the speaker is a thirtysomething New Yorker scraping out a life in the long tail of the Great Recession, a specter that looms over many poems in the collection. SMITH: That poem was originally published as The Mowers. Then I read it in Washington, DC in 2016 and realized that the poems wish is for something graceful, wordless, grateful and sustaining to link these two imaginary strangers in common understanding. I liked setting up, via the title, the expectation of something rigid or dogmatic, and then allowing the poem itself to be gentle. Is it strange to say love is a languageFew practice, but all, or near all speak?Even the men in black armor, the onesJangling handcuffs and keys, what elseAre they so buffered against, if not loves bladeSizing up the hearts familiar meat? I see it as my job to draw these things out, and offer the kinds of questions and observations that will help students move further into their strengths as writers, and to follow them toward an organic and genuine sense of their own deepening themes and questions. Curtis Fox: So this poem is set in pre-Facebook times. I struggle a lot with interpreting metaphorical words often used by poets and underlying meanings behind small phrases. The poet is having an ominous sense that this century is going to be quite something to handle, which turned out to be true. Among her current projects is Self-Portraits,a chapbook collection of ekphrastic poems focused on women artists. 83 pp.Reviewed by Susanna Lang. The glossy Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. Her latest book is Wade In The Water. Price and value, Smith reminds us, are not the same thing.In a recent lecture published by the Washington Post, she calls poetry a radically re-humanizing force, one that comes closest to bringing us into visceral proximity with the lives and plights of others. She contrasts it with the market-driven language that divides everything into a brutal war of all against all and debilitates our minds: I also, more and more, recognize its value as a remedy to the various things that have bombarded our lines of sight and our thought space, and that tamper with our ability or even our desire to listen to that deeply rooted part of ourselves. I had the same problem choosing my poet. Once, a bag of black beluga WebThe story Garden of Eden introduces the first man and woman that God created. I love the things my students are willing to learn, and the risks they are willing to take with their poems. I'm glad you were able to find something to connect with! WebMetal claws poised over a valley of rubber. I spent about 2 hours going through this list of poets trying to find someone that I could just understand and was pleasantly surprised to stumble upon Tracy. And sometimes there are things that seem to point in very different directions as a result of whats been eliminated. On the dawning century. Home the paper bags, doing Although the last section of the book includes poems with a similarly wide lens, Smith also evokes small moments with her children. Take it easy. So, when I was working on other poems in this book that were wrestling with history, I thought, oh, Ill go back to that Jefferson poem and see if I can make it right. Capitalist realism is the language of the boardroom, the pop-up ad, the tax form, the PR statement, the subway banner, the chip-card reader, the medical bill, the Fidelity account. They let you move back and forth, slowing things down or speeding them up in an attempt to get a fuller, more satisfying view. In my earlier work, persona poems have been a tool by which Ive sought to learn something about some other experience or perspective that is remote from my own. I am always asking poems to show me who we are, what we are connected to, what our actions and choices set into motion, and whether it might somehow be possible to become better at being human. Her How does Political Poem complement and converse with the books more overtly, explicitly political poems? Smith continues that it was Brooklyn and everyone she had known was living. Whats going on there? You pay attention because it wades in deep. This poem is set in the beginning of the shift in our perspective, this idea that privacy is something that we can live above, in a way. Bouncing balls, the kind that lifts nothing. In the poem, Declaration , by Tracy K. Smith, the author is able to criticize a powerful document and bring to light the racial injustices in modern-day society. Smith mingles these themes in The World is Your Beautiful Younger Sister, where the body of a woman stands in for the planet itself; Smith plays on old Western conceptions of nature as a female resource to be commanded by men and their technologies. L.I. It comes down to simple math.The beach belongs to none of us, regardlessof color, or money. We thought the birds were singing louder. Life on Mars is a very sentimental and intimate book of poems about how an author deals a lost in her life. In Garden of Eden, the first poem in the collection, Smith remembers shopping at a grocery store in Brooklyn that was actually called the Garden of Eden. Analyzes how the first poem in the book sums up the primary focus of the works in its exploration of loss, grieving, and recovery. Capitalism, Fisher intones, is what is left when beliefs have collapsed at the level of ritual or symbolic elaboration, and all that is left is the consumer-spectator, trudging through the ruins and the relics.Is there any alternative to the morose conviction that nothing new can ever happen (Fisher again)? She has taught at Princeton University and Harvard University. on the high Seas The point of capitalism is to get more capital, which allows you to either procure stuff (things or experiences) or just hoard the lucre, deriving a weird pleasure from that. We poor oppressed ones, one writes Lincoln, appeal to you, and ask fair play.Arranged by Smith, these voices, often speaking in nonstandard English, become part of the American literary corpus. Because having them suggests a sense of unearned privilege? Ive been sharing work by other American poets, and readings of my own poems as well, and just asking a very simple question, which is, what do you notice? 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